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The Cost of Living In White Space

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Episode Notes Amy welcomes Teresa Belthrop Hairston, the Head of Diversity Inclusion and Belonging at Delta Dental, to the show for a discussion centered around the theme of fostering inclusion. Check the links in the show notes to connect with Teresa and more. Connect with Teresa on LinkedIn. https://bit.ly/3H2qWLh Including You is brought to you…

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Including You : Fostering Inclusion (w/ Teresa Belthrop Hairston)

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Zach sits down with friend of the show Dr. Janice Gassam to talk about her podcast, Dirty Diversity and her newsletter, The Pink Elephant. Connect with Dr. Gassam on LinkedIn, Twitter & Instagram. https://bit.ly/2Up2RXi https://bit.ly/3XkO50N https://bit.ly/2SfeFss Check out Dr. Gassam’s official website. https://bit.ly/3W0Pnx0 Subscribe to Dr. Gassam’s LinkedIn newsletter. https://bit.ly/3W0sglW Find out more about Dr….

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Talking the Realities of DEI (w/ Dr. Janice Gassam)

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Today I’m joined by Amy S Choi and Rebecca Lehrer, co-founders and co-hosts of The Mash-Up American podcast, which features stories and interviews on the things that make us who we are: culture, relationships, and identity. I feel a kindred spirit…

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Mashing up the Conversation on Grief

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Episode Notes Amy welcomes Sacha Thompson, the Inclusive Culture Curator and Coach of The Equity Equation, to the Including You podcast to discuss psychological safety. Connect with Sacha on LinkedIn and Twitter. https://bit.ly/3ZdNujl https://bit.ly/3Glq0QD Including You is brought to you by Lead at Any Level. Learn more about them on their website. http://bit.ly/2lPvOMM Learn more…

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Including You : Psychological Safety (w/ Sacha Thompson)

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Zach sits down with educator and entrepreneur Mike Yates to talk about the experience of Black educators and ways in which education systems can better support Black and brown students. Connect with Mike on LinkedIn and Twitter. http://bit.ly/2YnCkgb https://bit.ly/3CjiCny Check out Mike’s official website. http://bit.ly/3vwvxyT Learn more about Pfizer on their website. https://bit.ly/2TTtZiZ Listen to…

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Black Educators and Equity (w/ Mike Yates)

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Amy welcomes Dr. Marcine Pickron-Davis, Chief Diversity and Community Relations Officer at Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine, to the Including You podcast this week, and Dr. Pickron-Davis shares how PCOM employees are unlearning racism. Connect with Marcine on LinkedIn. https://bit.ly/3jFcvnh Including You is brought to you by Lead at Any Level. Learn more about them on…

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Including You : Unlearning Racism (w/ Dr. Marcine Pickron-Davis)

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