In this episode of Heard! Afros & Audio Interview Series, host Talib Jasir sits down with Faybeo’n Mickens, a award-winning audio marketing creative and podcast growth strategist, former music marketer, and the founder of PodBae, an emerging AI-powered revenue and matchmaking platform for independent podcasters.

Fay shares her perspective on why micro and nano podcasters often hold deeper audience trust than larger shows, and how long-form audio creates a different value proposition for brands. The conversation explores the realities of podcast monetization outside of celebrity-driven models, including the structural barriers that keep many creators out of revenue conversations before they ever begin.

This episode also examines how podcasting functions as a cultural archive, why download counts are an incomplete measure of impact, and how ethical AI tools like PodBae aim to help creators identify monetization opportunities, live event venues, and aligned brand partnerships earlier in their journey. It’s a grounded conversation for podcasters and audio professionals thinking seriously about sustainability, ownership, and long-term growth.

Episode Topics

• Defining micro and nano podcasters in today’s ecosystem

• Audience trust and long-form listening behavior

• Podcast monetization beyond ads and network deals

• Structural gaps and gatekeeping in the podcast industry

• Ethical uses of AI for creator support and revenue forecasting

• Live podcasting, local audiences, and sustainable growth models

• Podcasting as a cultural and historical archive

Episode Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:00 Introducing Fay / Faybeo’n Mickens 03:12 Background in Music Marketing and Audio 06:08 Discovering Podcasting as a Strategic Tool 10:04 Why Download Counts Limit Monetization 15:22 Micro and Nano Podcasters and Audience Trust 20:18 Podcasting vs Advertising Mindsets 24:07 “Your Podcast Is Not a Commercial” 28:41 Brand Alignment and Long-Term Value 33:12 Ethical Uses of AI in Podcasting 38:05 Building PodBae and Creator Matchmaking 43:36 Live Podcasting and Local Audiences 48:29 Podcasting as Cultural Archive 53:44 Sustainability, Ownership, and Longevity 58:12 Final Reflections and How to Connect

To learn more about Faybeo’n Mickens visit: https://faybeonmickens.com

To learn more about PodBae visit: http://www.podbae.love

To connect contact support@podbae.love

Follow Faybeo’n on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gullahisland

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