‘I realised life is not black and white’

“I’m always a bit uncomfortable listening to male politicians talking about their journey,” says Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, of his path to feminist enlightenment.

“Because, of course, the journey that nearly 200,000 women took to end their pregnancies was a much more difficult and much more traumatic than any journey that any male politician ever went on,” he tells Kathy Sheridan on the latest episode of the Women’s Podcast, recorded live at the Body & Soul festival in Co Westmeath.

Nevertheless, the Taoiseach did go on “a journey” to understand why Ireland’s abortion laws needed to change, he says, and on that road he opened his ears to women and their stories.  

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