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Intro from Jay Allison: Up now at Transom, in a new piece for our “In Conversation” series, Zak Rosen talks to Jonathan Goldstein of Gimlet’s “Heavyweight” about making personal stories — turning the lens back on yourself in the podcast realm. Jonathan’s been doing that for a while, but Zak recently started a podcast with his wife about their decision to have a baby (or not). They talk about being too self-indulgent, mining ideas from therapy, navigating self-consciousness and, of course, babies.
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Zak: I’m about to call Jonathan Goldstein and interview him for the Transom series, In Conversation. I’m kinda nervous. [Phone rings] Hey.
Jonathan: Hey there.
Zak: Can you hear me okay?
Jonathan: Yeah, I can hear you okay. Can you hear me?
Zak: Hmm-hmm.
Jonathan: Okay, great.
Zak: Are…